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#5216 - 05/28/01 12:52 PM
Ortho question s/l dorsal pie plate
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Orthopaedic doctor (very clear speaker) says earlier in the report: "She still has mild pain over the dorsal fixation plate, as well." Later in the same report he says: "Return to the clinic in four months to discuss removal of the dorsal s/l pie plate, which is a routine maneuver given the risk of tendon ruptures with prolonged placement of the dorsal s/l pie plate." I have been typing for this doctor for months now and he has never used this phrase before. I cannot find anything about this in my Stedman's dictionary or my Orthopaedic Words book. Any help in locating this would be much appreciated as this is a STAT report. April66 
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#5219 - 05/28/01 03:38 PM
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Harrie
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Oh, dang!! I had that pi plate this weekend, myself, and I've been doing ortho forever and had never, ever heard the term! And after looking through all my books and finding nothing, I just put pie plate! Error-time, hehehe! Well Toni, thanks a million - why the heck didn't I look on here for that? Shoot. Had another one I couldn't confirm anywhere, and for that one I did look here - can anyone confirm the spelling of Vag-Pack?
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#5220 - 05/28/01 03:52 PM
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Elgee
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I sent one through with the dreaded "pie plate" myself, Harrie, so move over and I'll join you on the kick-my-self-in-the-butt line. You know what would be nice??? A neural transmitter implanted in my brain that sends a signal to Toni so she can let me know when I'm typing something really stupid!! Is that asking too much??? I know, Toni, I'll keep checking those weekly updates!! Harrie, if we're talking about the same thing here..."vag pack" is doc slang for vaginal packing in my neck o' the woods. Pie plate.....AUGGGGHHH  Lisa
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#5221 - 05/28/01 03:56 PM
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Harrie
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Thanks, Lisa, and great to see you, too! Hehehehe....well, I've just written it into 4 different books and in my index card file, too, so that I'll never forget it! Well, about Vag-Pack, I thought so too...but on a search I did find one reference as Vag-Pack. Unfortunately in the same article, they used Vag-Pak, hehehe! It just wasn't reliable enough, and further searching got me nothing. So I just am totally unsure whether it was slang for vaginal packing or what. Edit: Okay, after thinking some more, I'd like to get this one straight, as well. Here's a link to the article (you have to scroll down quite a bit). http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-120a.shtml Now, this is not a term I've heard a lot and apparently you have, and so if you really think I should just put vaginal packing after seeing this article, please do straighten me out! Thanks! [ 05-28-2001: Message edited by: Harrie ]
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#5222 - 05/28/01 04:12 PM
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Elgee
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Well heck, Harrie, just throw in another pie plate - I'm sure it would work just fine!! I'm updating my reference books too....not that I'll be forgetting this anytime soon.
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#5223 - 05/28/01 04:16 PM
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Harrie
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I think you were posting at the same time that I was editing, lg! Help me, sis!
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#5224 - 05/28/01 04:33 PM
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Elgee
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The article you are referring to is describing a specific treatment for cervical dysplasia using a treated sponge called a "Vag Pack". I tried to visit the Bezwecken Company web site, but you have to be a "member". If you are hearing "vag pack" in the context of GYN surgery, like a vaginal hysterectomy or bladder suspension, or the like, I would be expanding that to vaginal packing. You might want to move this to a separate post for other ideas, Harriebird, 'cause it's just my opinion and that's about as useful as a pie plate strapped to somebody's wrist. 
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#5225 - 05/28/01 04:40 PM
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Harrie
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lmao, Lisa! Well, I could make a separate thread....but what you say makes perfect sense and I do believe you're right. This was a GYN surgery with no dysplasia involved. Now, A) - why did not this logic occur to me, and B) - why did not this logic occur to me, heheheehe! Thank you very much!
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#5226 - 05/28/01 06:50 PM
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Just wanted to say that you need not be embarrassed about using "pie plate". Stedman's Ortho Words lists Synthes pie plate. Maybe it can be spelled either "pi" or "pie".
angel 
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#5227 - 05/28/01 07:07 PM
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Harrie
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My gosh, Angel, if you aren't correct about that! There it is under Synthes! Now, I say this is a case of an error in Stedman's, myself, unless someone can prove otherwise! Of course, I can use it to 'splain myself, haha! (Just kidding). No seriously, it must be a mistake, eh? Toni, what say ye?
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#5228 - 05/28/01 07:34 PM
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Harrie,
After searching a bit more on Google, I also think it's a mistake on Stedman's part. Just shows me once again that even our trusty reference books aren't always 100% accurate.
angel
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#5229 - 05/28/01 07:38 PM
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Harrie
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Well, Angel, I think so too....and I have to say that through the years, I have found them to make a few, at least 4 that I can think of! But it's not really a criticism because I could not live without those books, I swear! I treasure them all! They have a form in most books to use - should you find a mistake or have a word you'd like them to add, and I'd like to do that in this case but I'd just like to be 100% sure that it isn't a word which could be spelled either way. But the shape of a pi symbol and the shape of a pie plate are totally different things, haha!
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#5230 - 05/28/01 09:53 PM
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AnnR
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Harrie: "Pi r squared" NO! Pie r round, cake r square!
 (sorry, couldn't resist)A [ 05-28-2001: Message edited by: AnnR ]
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#5231 - 05/29/01 05:05 AM
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Harrie
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ROTF, Ann!
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